4 HeroCreating Patterns

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Electronic

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Future Jazz

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Tracklist

Conceptions 5:39
Time 4:38
Golden Solitude 6:55
Twothesme 6:01
Another Day 4:57
Hold It Down 5:11
Unique 4:43
Something Nothing 2:37
Ways Of Thought 4:29
Eight 5:40
Twelve Tribes 6:06
2-BS-74638 3:58
Les Fleur 6:05

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    Reviews

    • eleventhvolume's avatar
      eleventhvolume
      I’m surprised to see no one commenting on the fact that there’s absolutely no overlap in the credits for these tracks. Mark Mac does his thing and Dego does his thing. They don’t even thank each other in their shout outs. So I guess by this point they had completely fallen out? This release to my ears is past the peak of Two Pages. It’s still enjoyable (though I agree with the below review that Dego’s tracks are a bit samey), but also sad.
      • Risingson's avatar
        Risingson
        There is something I find frustrating about 4hero starting in Creating Patterns: Dego and Marc Mac stick to tracks that are more... tropes? It is as if they pidgeonhole themselves into one of the two different compartments: Marc to the string based epic song reminiscent of the hippy jazzy scene like, yeah, Rotary Connection, and Dego to the more electronic and experimental and raw broken beat. Thing is, if you have followed the career of both you know that they are actually not that dissimilar (Marc tends to get lose more in piano chords and some riffs but that's mostly it) so I am wondering, in here and in "Play with the changes", how... sincere is what they are doing, how much they are composing stuff to stick to the brand they got themselves into.

        There are good tracks, of course, and I cannot even say there is a bad one. The Dego ones can get a bit too similar to each other or too long (did "Golden Solitude" need that long intro?) and the Marc Mac ones follow a very strict pattern. But "Unique"/"Something Nothing" are here, as well as "Les Fleur" and in some editions "The Day of the Greys" which is the most spectacular epic piece on that "soul with strings" style with a Terry Callier who gathers an overwhelming collection of emotions. Yeah, collaborations started to be spectacular at this point.

        In any case, if this album frustrates you too much, there is the rest of the huge enormous output of Dego and Marc Mac, where you will find (even in the last few years) hip hop, jungle, broken beat, techno and anything else, in a bit more of a free form way.
        • jancito303's avatar
          jancito303
          Superb piece of work with Les Fleur being the crown jewel. Just my opinion. Cheerio.
          • karm990's avatar
            karm990
            Edited 4 years ago
            I'll keep it simple, ignore the clown below who has no idea what he is talking about regarding this album, 4Hero or it would seem good music in general. If you knew the direction 4hero went in from Two Pages on wards then this album will be no surprise, they were never going to make jungle/D&B bangers exclusively for the rest of their lives. Check it for yourself and make your own mind.
            • themucaro's avatar
              themucaro
              Any particular reason why Mark Murphy's track hasn't his vocals on it on the vinyl? Bit annoying :)
              • LeonardoA's avatar
                LeonardoA
                As the name implies, the English formation 4 Hero originally from four . When, however, in 1998 the breakthrough album Two Pages came out, there were only two about: Mark Mac (real name: Mark Clair) and Dego McFarlane. Along with Goldie and Roni Size 4 Hero long time belonged to the biggest innovators in the drum & bass genre. The above-mentioned double album Two Pages had two faces: the first part (Page One) sounded warm and melodic, while the second part (Page Two) especially from chilly, electronic break beats existed. With the successor Creating Patterns (2001) are they managed to mix these elements to a sound that feel free to be called unique. What at the first listening immediately noticeable is the fact that almost all the instruments are played by real musicians. The winds and strings come this time so not from a box and even most drum beats are real. In addition, the vocals become more important and it shows the best in the price numbers Golden Solitude, Another Day (featuring Jill Scott) and the great single Les Fleur. After a few spins, we must conclude that 4 Hero is the dance scene. With Creating Patterns they have a groundbreaking pop album made of which you can enjoy at home.
                • telwin5000's avatar
                  telwin5000
                  Edited 13 years ago
                  Nice to see that this LP is fetching some decent prices because thats about the only thing positive i can say about it. I used to love 4 Hero, and a big part of the problem was of course from where they started, right at top, so the only way was down really, or up, up there own ass holes as this album proves. Then again they are keeping dreadful company with mr Giles and Co at talkin loud, i'd say more chin stroking around at studio these days than anything else. I really wanted to like this album, but every song, thats Every song is just plain weak, the female vocalist is dreadfull. 4 hero, i suppose now that i think about it they always threatened to go this way, how the mighty have fallen.
                  • shonzilla's avatar
                    shonzilla
                    Edited 18 years ago
                    A compilation of previously released 4Hero singles, where most of them are masterpieces. An amazing collection of their trademark musical eclecticism... all the tunes, by default, have the refreshing new-age soul feel with jazzy breaks and an abundance of orchestrated spices all over.

                    This release deserves an honorable place in every eclectic music collection.
                    • NOSXTC's avatar
                      NOSXTC
                      Edited 19 years ago
                      4heros unmistable natural sound which drips in funk, soul,jazz, and in parts eeriesness. Transcends musical boundaries. The fact that nothing else sounds like it grabs you, it has possibly infinite listening pleasure, you can be sure that no could make a better version than their tremendous vocal tracks which boast tight live instrumentation. For the ultimate in electronic beats / orchestral beats fusion. Sure its beem tried before, but as usual 4hero can really show how genres should sound, which can be only described as that 4hero sound. Lush,deep, an essential armchair 21st century classic.
                      • scoundrel's avatar
                        scoundrel
                        I don’t think it would be much of an exaggeration to call <I>Creating Patterns</I> a masterpiece. Because it is -- a masterpiece of electronic jazz. 4 Hero have come so far since their early days as drum ‘n’ bass pioneers that it’s astounding to see their transformation. The opening track, “Conceptions,” sets the standard with its thoughtful and smooth instrumentation. The rhythmic sense is still intact, as evidenced by the careful and complex drumming on “Golden Solitude.” The highlight, for me, is the quiet and truthful “Another Day,” featuring the soft vocals of Jill Scott -- it describes how I feel all the time. The Spanish vocals on “Unique” add a different flair, and the chorus on the hippie anthem “Les Fleur” will lift you to another plane. Terry Callier’s soulfulness on “The Day of the Greys” makes it transcendent. What are you still waiting for?

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