Todd RundgrenInitiation

Genre:

Rock

Style:

Art Rock

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Tracklist

Real Man 4:25
Born To Synthesize 3:40
The Death Of Rock And Roll 3:48
Eastern Intrigue 5:06
Initiation 7:05
Fair Warning 8:07
A Treatise On Cosmic Fire (36:00)
Intro - Prana 4:27
II. The Fire Of Mind - Or Solar Fire 3:43
III. The Fire Of Spirit - Or Electric Fire 7:34
I. The Internal Fire - Or Fire By Friction 20:16
Muladhara - The Dance Of Kundalini
Svadhishthana - Bam, Bham, Mam, Yam, Ram, Lam, Thank You, Mahm
Manipura - Seat Of Fire
Anahata - The Halls Of Air
Vishudda - Sounds Beyond Ears
Ajna - Sights Beyond Eyes
Brahmarandhra - Nirvana Shakti
Outro - Prana

Credits (3)

Notes

The 4th album, by Todd Rundgren.

It is a one of the longest running single disc LPs ever issued (1 hour, 7 minutes and 34 seconds; side B's total time is almost 35½ minutes).

However, because of its fragility and reduced dynamic range, the following note was printed on the inner sleeve:
"Technical Note: Due to the amount of music on this disc (over one hour), two points must be emphasized. Firstly, if your needle is worn or damaged, it will ruin this disc immediately. Secondly, if the sound does not seem loud enough on your system, try re-recording the music onto tape. By the way, thanks for buying the album"

The final suite 'A Treatise On Cosmic Fire' was sped up by half a step to fit the disc with ease, this is why 'Prana' on the 'Real Man' 45RPM 7'' single sounds slower, as that was the speed that was intended to be heard, except all discs and CD reissues play the sped up version used for the original LP. To slow it to the correct speed, using software such as Audacity, reduce the speed by 5.94 percent (one half step).

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    Hispavox – HWBS 321-90 Spain 1975 Spain1975
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    RCA Music Service – R 123749 US 1975 US1975
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    Warner Bros. Records – P-10017W Japan 1975 Japan1975
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    Cover of Initiation, 1975, 8-Track Cartridge Initiation
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    Rhino Records (2) – RNLP 70866 US 1987 US1987
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    Cover of Initiation, 1987, CD Initiation
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    Rhino Records (2) – 8122-70866-2 Europe 1987 Europe1987
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    Bearsville – VDP-28019 Japan 1988 Japan1988
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    Cover of Initiation, 1995-07-21, CD Initiation
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    Cover of Initiation, 1998-02-25, CD Initiation
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    Cover of Initiation, 1999, CD Initiation
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    Essential! Records – ESM CD 701 UK 1999 UK1999
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    Reviews

    • johnborzatti's avatar
      johnborzatti
      s, please add to notes or credits "Mastered by Chris Bellman at Bernie Grundman mastering.
      This title FINALLY breathes when spread across two LP's. I am amazed that Todd wasn't forced to have it out this way originally same as the previous title "Todd". I never had an acceptable copy of this title on vinyl until now. The original CD was a breath of fresh air when it came out! Yes it has a folded liner note/lyric insert opening up like a gatefold jacket. Dead quiet pressing. I am curious as to where this was pressed. Since it is a Rhino re-issue it may have been RTI but there is no confirmation anywhere of this. I didn't notice the glitch mentioned here but perhaps checking an original issue might confirm further. I will have to re-listen.
      • fuzztronic's avatar
        fuzztronic
        Can someone confirm if this includes liner notes as mentioned on the RSD sticker? The copy I received is just the 2 LP's in poly-lined sleeves. There are no liner notes or anything else included. A full set of photos added to this submission is needed.
        • Edinburghmac's avatar
          Edinburghmac
          Not sure if there’s quality control issues here or a mistake with the pressing but my copy seems to skip at the last chorus of born to synthesize (the long extended loud “born” wail) - a real shame as apart from that the pressing and cut are excellent. Does anyone else have the same issue? (I’ve tried my copy with 2 different turntables with the same result and it sounds to me like an error in the pressing)
          • romanotrax's avatar
            romanotrax
            Now that 68 minutes isn’t crammed on 1 disc, this album can be heard with nice full bass and clean highs. Another Chris Bellman masterpiece IMO. The only thing missed here was slowing it down to the original speed since the room was available. This sounds excellent all around and the translucent blue vinyl is both pretty and quiet.
            • hoarseman's avatar
              hoarseman
              For all of us hoping this album would be reissued on 2 LP's, it looks like we get our wish on RSD 2025. Unsure yet if it will be speed corrected.
              • miss.erica's avatar
                miss.erica
                This record is way to long and thus sounds like crap. I mean 36 minutes on an LP-side? This is madness
                • KEVINSRECORDS's avatar
                  KEVINSRECORDS
                  One of top pioneering and majestically arranged albums of the latter 20th century
                  • SeashoreArchive's avatar
                    SeashoreArchive
                    Slightly transparent vinyl. Shines orange when held up to a light.
                    • jackstraxrecords.'s avatar
                      Just found out that I have one of these winchester ones. Is there a reason why they are going for so much?
                      • mhnien's avatar
                        mhnien
                        Edited 2 years ago
                        For ages, I had the first 30 seconds or so of 'Real Man' on a tape that I recorded off of late-night NYC radio in the early 90s (WNEW or K-Rock). It gets to the middle of the first verse before it abruptly cuts off - too pretentious and wimpy for my teenage ears. Little did I know.

                        Initiation is a weird album among weird albums made by a strange man who bucked all convention. This is the height of Todd's synth era. There's nothing that sounds like it until much later in the 70's and 80's. It prefigures Synth-pop down to the gated-reverb sounding snare drum and overall production. There's prog moves galore, as evidenced by Side 2, which is a 36 minute long suite.

                        The sound is very strange and thin, which is due to over an hour of info being crammed onto one LP. 'Treatise' was actually sped up so that it would fit on one side, giving it an 'Uncle Meat'-era Mothers and video game music, cartoonish feel. You gotta love the note on the back of the record that tells buyers to "record it to tape" for better sound. We couldn't get it to sound right, may be you can!!

                        Hopefully we'll get a double LP reissue for the 50th that includes a pitch/speed corrected version of 'Treatise'

                        Did Todd get into Scientology? It sounds like it here.

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